Was Paul in the body or out of the body when he was caught up to the third heaven?

Les teaches that the stoning at Derbe fits chronologically with Paul’s experience described in II Corinthians. Paul was probably about 41 or 42 AD on that first missionary journey, and II Corinthians was written about 60. Les explains that when Paul was stoned at Derbe and dragged out for dead, he had this tremendous opportunity to see the glories of Heaven. Reading II Corinthians’ phrase “whether in the body, or out of the body,” Les says it is pretty obvious Paul was out of the body; the body was the one lying outside Derbe, and the soul and spirit took flight, so that “such a one was caught up to the third heaven.”